Guest Jason Petty discusses Thomas Jefferson's contradictory roles as a proponent of liberty and a slave owner. The podcast explores Jefferson's early life, political career, family dynamics, and views on slavery, shedding light on his complex legacy.
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Thomas Jefferson's complex childhood shaped his intellectual pursuits and lack of social skills.
Jefferson's admiration for Roman figures like Cato the Elder influenced his thoughts on law and morality.
Cato the Elder's beliefs on slave management reflect a dehumanizing perspective and controlling tactics.
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Thomas Jefferson's Early Years
Thomas Jefferson's childhood and adolescence included experiences such as hunting as a young boy, attending school with a servant named Jupiter and developing a complex relationship with family members. He displayed a lack of social skills and a strong foundation in classics and intellectual pursuits.
Influences on Thomas Jefferson's Views
Jefferson's college years were marked by developing legal skills under George Wythe and an admiration for Roman figures like Cato the Elder, shaping his thoughts on law and morality. His mentor William Small influenced his religious beliefs, leading him towards a deist perspective.
Cato the Elder's View on Farming and Slavery
Cato the Elder idealized the free citizen farmer who formed the backbone of Roman military strength. He had specific ideas about slave management, expecting them to work or sleep, and even charging them for sexual interactions. Cato's belief that slaves were living tools led him to maintain control by instigating feuds among them, ensuring they remained divided and subservient.
Jefferson's Early Life and Political Involvement
Thomas Jefferson's early years in law and high society introduced him to influential revolution voices like Patrick Henry. He strongly opposed British taxation on the colonies and supported non-importation resolutions. Despite his reserved nature, Jefferson engaged in political debates, advocating for colonial autonomy and exhibiting early signs of advocating against slavery by submitting an emancipation bill anonymously.
Robert sits down with Jason Petty, AKA Prop, to discuss how Thomas Jefferson became a global prophet of liberty despite owning human beings and helping to invent modern racism.