Tatum Tricarico embodies a set of identities we don't always see together – she is a proud Disabled person, a Queer woman of faith, and a recent graduate from divinity school on her way to becoming a pastor. Tatum knows, first-hand, a lot of the wounds disabled and queer people have felt inside religious communities, and she's here to offer all of us – the ones on the outside and inside – new scripts for understanding the divine.

Check out Tatum's forthcoming book, Blessed Is the Body, a reflection on disability justice, the holiness of inclusion and acceptance, disabled leadership, the finitude of our bodies, and allowing space for lament and acceptance. Whether you grew up hearing your body is sinful or haven't read a page of the Bible, this episode offers us a tender reframe on how we could think about our bodies and what needs (or doesn't need) fixing.

Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:

⛪️ Tatum's early experiences with disability, queerness, and religion.

🧳 What it feels like to Tatum to embody a (disabled, queer, religious) role full of tension and contradiction.

🐧 Finding God in the "in between" spaces, like penguins.

🍃 Why Tatum had to let go of who she thought God was.

🏳️‍🌈 What Tatum thinks religious communities are missing out on when they exclude people.

👩‍🦯‍➡️ The yuck history of churches fighting to be excluded from the Americans with Disabilities Act.

💌 Tatum's decision to stay in the church, even as she continues to think creatively about God.

Mentioned In Today's Episode:

Find Tatum on Instagram @blind_person_in_area

Pre-Order her book from Herald Press or Amazon

Tatum's addition to the Scratch That Spotify playlist of songs that have held us – "Sight" by Sleeping At Last

Nancy Eiesland's book The Disabled God: Toward a Liberatory Theology of Disability

Amy Kenny 's book My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church

As Always:

Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.

Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.

We would love to hear from you! Do you relate to any of the experience Rebekah and Tatum shared in this episode? Have you revised any scripts around what is holy or divine?

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