
Democracy Now! Audio Democracy Now! 2025-11-20 Thursday
Nov 20, 2025
Sonia Guajajara, Brazil's first Minister of Indigenous Peoples and a passionate advocate for indigenous rights, discusses the importance of indigenous participation and land demarcation at COP30. Carlos Nobre, an esteemed climatologist, warns about the Amazon nearing a tipping point due to deforestation and highlights the dire consequences of livestock emissions. Nikki Reich provides vital insights into climate displacement, emphasizing the need for legal protections for climate-displaced individuals and adaptation finance. Together, they advocate for urgent climate action and sustainable policies.
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Justice Is Central To COP30
- COP30 in Belém centers justice: finance, fossil fuels and forests are the decisive issues driving negotiations.
- Nikki Reich says a just transition needs public finance and accountability from major historic polluters.
Roadmap Momentum Meets Major Absences
- Over 80 countries back a fossil-fuel phaseout roadmap but key emitters like the U.S., Saudi Arabia and China are absent or obstructing.
- Reich stresses coalitions like the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty can gather willing states to act despite obstruction.
Fund Rights-Based Responses For Climate Migrants
- Do provide adaptation finance and legal protections so climate-displaced people can stay or migrate with dignity.
- Nikki Reich invokes non-refoulement and urges rights-based responses instead of militarized crackdowns.


