Mikey Shulman is the Co-Founder and CEO of Suno, the leading music AI company. Suno lets everyone make and share music. Mikey has raised over $125M for the company from the likes of Lightspeed, Founder Collective and Nat Friedman and Daniel Gross. Prior to founding Suno, Mikey was the first machine learning engineer and head of machine learning at Kensho technologies, which was acquired by S&P Global for over $500 million.

In Today’s Episode with Mikey Shulman:

1. The Future of Models:

Who wins the future of models? Anthropic, OpenAI or X?
Will we live in a world of many smaller models? When does it make sense for specialised vs generalised models?
Does Mikey believe we will continue to see the benefits of scaling laws?

2. The Future of UI and Consumer Apps:

Why does Mikey believe that OpenAI did AI consumer companies a massive disservice?
Why does Mikey believe consumers will not choose their model or pay for a superior model in the future?
Why does Mikey believe that good taste is more important than good skills?
Why does Mikey argue physicists and economists make the best ML engineers?

3. The Future of Music:

What is going on with Suno’s lawsuit against some of the biggest labels in music?
How does Mikey see the future of music discovery?
How does Mikey see the battle between Spotify and YouTube playing out?
How does Mikey see the battle between TikTok and Spotify playing out?

Tojes time: Odd Nerdrum