In a poignant conversation, Dieter Bohn, co-founder of The Verge and tech review guru, bids farewell as he transitions to Google. He reminisces about founding The Verge and shares memorable moments from tech events like CES. Joining him is Walt Mossberg, a veteran technology journalist renowned for his insights. Together, they explore the tensions between open web principles and app ecosystems, while celebrating a legacy filled with humor and camaraderie. Their heartfelt reflections make for a bittersweet yet uplifting farewell.