In this deeply personal and unflinchingly honest episode, Kevin sits down with his friend of over two decades, Jason DeFilippo, to explore a journey that has defined much of their lives: their relationship with alcohol.

Their friendship, like many, was forged over countless pints and late-night conversations. Jason shares his harrowing story of a near-fatal stroke, a direct consequence of his long battle with alcohol. He walks us through his rock bottom, the terrifying physical and mental fallout, and the deliberate steps he took to reclaim his life.

Inspired by Jason's journey and facing his own health warnings, the Kevin opens up about his personal decision to explore sobriety, confronting the social anxiety and dependencies he's carried since childhood. Together, they deconstruct the meaning of alcoholism, the challenges and revelations of 12-step programs, and the surprising freedom found in making amends and living one day at a time.

This is more than a story about quitting drinking; it's a conversation about the courage to change, the power of vulnerability, and the evolution of a lifelong friendship.

[00:00] Introduction to Ordinary Consciousness

[00:54] Kevin's Personal Journey with Anxiety and Alcohol

[02:23] Reconnecting with an Old Friend

[03:04] Jason's Sobriety Journey

[03:39] Host's Realization and Decision to Change

[04:59] Exploring Sobriety and Tools for Change

[06:46] Early Experiences with Alcohol

[09:46] Childhood and Family Influences

[15:26] Adolescence and Coping Mechanisms

[21:34] College Years and Escalation

[27:41] Professional Life and Drinking Culture

[33:16] Early Drug Use and Experiences in San Francisco

[33:37] Memorable Nights and Stoned Adventures

[34:13] Drinking Habits and Social Events

[35:49 The Impact of Alcohol on Health

[37:19] Struggles with Alcohol Dependence

[39:53] The Turning Point: Health Scares and Realizations

[41:38] The Stroke: A Life-Changing Event

[43:53] Recovery and Reflections

[46:43] Understanding Alcoholism and Its Effects

[52:55] The Stroke Experience and Aftermath

[59:26] Birthday Relapse: A Sobering Experience

[01:01:46] The Downward Spiral: Losing Everything

[01:02:55] Rock Bottom: A Wake-Up Call

[01:05:15] Finding Help: The Road to Recovery

[01:06:48] The Power of Fellowship and Steps

[01:15:43] The Importance of Powerlessness

[01:24:26] Making Amends: Healing the Past

[01:27:47] Looking Forward: A New Beginning

Aug 30, 2018