The New Yorker Radio Hour

Atul Gawande on Elon Musk’s “Surgery with a Chainsaw”

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Mar 14, 2025
Atul Gawande, a prominent surgeon and public health expert, dives deep into the repercussions of Elon Musk's controversial remarks about U.S.A.I.D. The conversation highlights the vital role of soft power in global health initiatives, particularly how funding cuts can jeopardize lives in conflict zones. Gawande reflects on the efficiency and impact of American foreign aid, admonishing the shift towards a more power-centric worldview. He also touches on vaccine confidence, linking it to historical hesitancy, and discusses ethical considerations in surgical practices.
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ANECDOTE

Gawande's USAID Tenure

  • Atul Gawande, appointed by Biden, led global health at USAID.
  • He resigned upon Trump's inauguration, anticipating policy shifts.
INSIGHT

USAID's Global Health Impact

  • Gawande oversaw 2,500 people across 65 countries, improving global health.
  • Their work demonstrably saved over 1.2 million lives in three years.
ANECDOTE

Musk's Accusations

  • Elon Musk's tweets called USAID a "criminal enterprise" and "democratic money laundering."
  • These claims contradict USAID's documented positive impact.
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