

The Power of Giving Away Power with Matthew Barzun and Kamal Ahmed
Aug 3, 2021
Matthew Barzun, former US Ambassador with a rich background in political campaigns and tech innovation, shares powerful insights into transformative leadership. He discusses how iconic figures like Dee Hock and Jimmy Wales exemplified leadership by sharing power, promoting creativity and inclusivity. Barzun emphasizes the shift from hierarchical to collaborative leadership, drawing from Barack Obama's campaign strategies. The conversation touches on the effectiveness of a 'constellation mindset' in organizations, fostering collaboration and co-creating urban spaces for more inclusive societies.
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The Great Seal's Symbolism
- The US seal was designed with a pyramid on one side and a constellation on the other.
- This symbolizes the tension between consolidated power and interdependence.
Pyramid vs. Constellation Leadership
- Pyramid leadership emphasizes hierarchy, ranking, and top-down control.
- Constellation leadership, however, prioritizes interdependence and interconnectedness.
Dee Hock and Visa
- Dee Hock, creator of Visa, transformed a failing credit card system.
- He did this by promoting cooperation and competition, creating the largest commercial entity.