
In Confidence with Lisa Sun: A Gravitas Podcast Episode 57: Who Are You After Change? with Kelly Cervantes
Jan 16, 2026
41:05
What if grief and joy could exist at the same time? What if rebuilding your life wasn’t about “moving on,” but about making meaning out of what happened?
Kelly Cervantes, author of The Luckiest and Normal Broken, joins us for a deeply human conversation about loss, identity, and resilience. In this episode of In Confidence, Kelly and Lisa unpack how to live with grief without letting it define you, how to release outdated goals, and how to rebuild a life that reflects who you are now.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
- What to say when someone is grieving, and why saying their name matters more than you think
- How to let go of old identities and goals without shame
- Why growth often requires redefining success instead of chasing permanence
- This week’s micro-moment, Rewire a Fail: how to review setbacks with compassion and turn them into learning
00:00 Intro
00:51 Meet Kelly Cervantes
06:32 What to Say to Someone Grieving
11:09 The Luckiest
25:00 Your Dreams and Goals Can Change
29:00 Joy and Grief
36:00 Micro-Moment #10: Rewire a Fail
39:02 Outro
40:40 Disclaimer
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