Accustomed to sparring live on air on a Sunday morning, Martin sits down with Douglas Ross to find out what he really thinks.
The former Scottish Conservative leader tells us why he defended Boris Johnson’s government – and why he thinks Holyrood is failing.
Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast, with Martin Geissler, Laura Miller and Natalie Higgins.
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