In this first episode, we meet singer, curator, event creator and lover of birdsong Sam Lee, speaking to us direct from a birdsong-filled woodland clearing, and Mya-Rose Craig, aka Birdgirl, who is doing amazing work promoting birdwatching among young people and promoting BME engagement with the natural world. Please consider supporting the podcast by visiting www.patreon.com/fromwhatiftowhatnext and becoming a patron.