What Really Matters with Walter Russell Mead Heritage, MAGA, Venezuela, Trump, and the Great Ben Sasse
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Dec 23, 2025 A deep dive into the turmoil at the Heritage Foundation reveals tensions with donors and the GOP's shifting center. The discussion highlights the factionalism within MAGA as seen at the Turning Point festival, and Trump's foreign policy is examined for its surprising benefits, including stronger alliances and a tougher stance in the Middle East. The hosts ponder on Trump's control of GOP succession and reflect on Ben Sasse's inspiring public service, urging listeners to embrace his decency.
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Heritage's Risky Fringe Strategy
- The Heritage Foundation tried to straddle mainstream and edgier right-wing currents and now risks institutional collapse.
- Walter Russell Mead argues keeping ties to figures like Tucker Carlson undermines Heritage's credibility and survival.
Charisma Holds The Movement Together
- MAGA cohesion depends heavily on a single charismatic leader and fragments without that figure.
- Walter Russell Mead says Turning Point's disunity reflects competing aspirants like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes fighting to lead.
Expect Late-Stage Kingmaking
- Control over succession matters and strong leaders will try to manage who follows them.
- Mead advises expecting Trump to withhold anointed heirs until late to avoid becoming a lame duck.