Patriotism vs. Christian Nationalism and the Trump Effect

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Sep 29, 2025

Explore the fine line between politics and faith as hosts discuss the impact of Donald Trump on the church. They delve into Scripture, examining how God appoints leaders and how love should guide obedience to authority. By distinguishing between patriotism and nationalism, they remind us that our true citizenship lies in God's eternal kingdom. The conversation also highlights the importance of engaging in politics while maintaining a Christlike perspective. Action steps encourage listeners to realign their identities away from national loyalties.

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ANECDOTE

Talk Radio's Trump Obsession

Heath describes hearing talk radio on long drives and being struck by how every show circles back to Trump.
The constant polarization pushed him to limit news consumption and reflect on its effects.

INSIGHT

God Allows Secular Authority

Romans 13 teaches that governing authorities exist because God allows them and can act as agents of punishment.
But Paul frames this within a larger call to love, showing civic submission serves the law of love.

INSIGHT

Submission Framed By Love

Paul's command to submit to rulers is sandwiched between an extended call to love in Romans 12.
Loving others fulfills the law and reorients how Christians should view civic obedience.

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Love him or hate him, Donald Trump has become one of the most polarizing figures of our time. And a big issue for pastors and church leaders is this: how much are our people being discipled by politics instead of Jesus? In this episode of the Everyday Disciple Podcast, we’ll step back from the headlines and look at what Scripture says about authority, leadership, and the Kingdom. If we’re not careful, political loyalties can shape our churches more than gospel priorities. This conversation will help you shepherd your people toward living as citizens of God’s eternal Kingdom, above and beyond party lines.

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

Why God allows leaders to rise—even the ones we disagree with.
How Scripture reframes our view of government and authority.
Ways to re-center identity and allegiance in the Kingdom of God.
How to guide your people toward love and peacemaking in political conversations.

Get started here... From this episode: “It is super important to remember that Jesus’ Kingdom stands above America and every nation of the earth. It is set apart and is an internal kingdom. One day, America and all its presidents will be a footnote in history, but God’s Kingdom will never end.”

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