The Debrief with Jon Becker UVALDE - What Really Happened at Robb Elementary?
Apr 16, 2025
Guests Nazmia Comrie, a sociologist from the DOJ Office of Community-Oriented Policing Services, and Frank Fernandez, a retired police chief, delve into the harrowing events of the Uvalde Robb Elementary tragedy. They discuss the independent review process, which included extensive interviews and document analysis. Key topics include the critical misclassification as a 'barricaded subject', leadership failures that stalled response efforts, and the profound impact on the community. They also share vital recommendations for improving law enforcement protocols in active shooter scenarios.
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Authoritative Independent Review
- The DOJ COPS review produced the most authoritative, independently verified account of Uvalde's response.
- The goal was to inform victims, communities, and law enforcement with verified facts and recommendations.
Use Trauma-Informed Review Practices
- Conduct trauma-informed interviews and provide counselors when reviewing mass violence incidents.
- Use voluntary interviews to avoid re-traumatizing survivors and responders.
Depth And Breadth Of The Review
- The DOJ team reviewed massive data: over 14,000 documents and 263 interviews with 50+ days on site.
- They also observed national active-shooter trainings to align recommendations with current practice.