In this twenty-ninth episode of the Philosophy Bakes Bread radio show and podcast, co-hosts Dr. Eric Thomas Weber and Dr. Anthony Cashio interview Drs. Amanda Fulford and Naomi Hodgson, on the topics of "What is the public?" and understanding philosophy as education - sung in a Tina Turner voice: "What's the Public Got to Do with It, Got to Do with It?"

Dr. Fulford is Reader in the Philosophy of Education at Leeds Trinity University in Leeds, in the United Kingdom. Her work is informed by thinkers including Stanley Cavell and his readings of the 19th century essayists Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson. Dr. Naomi Hodgson is Lecturer in Education Studies at Liverpool Hope University, also in the U.K., where she teaches the philosophy of education. Her work is focused on the relationship between education, government, and subjectivity.  She is author of Citizenship for the Learning Society (Wiley, 2016) and she coauthored Philosophy and Theory in Educational Research with Amanda, releasing that book also in 2016, with Routledge Press.

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