Join Paul and Todd as they chat with Joel Brown, the director of the Van Andel Creation Research Center at Arizona Christian University in Phoenix, Arizona. With a PhD in genetics, Joel became a high school teacher in St Louis and then felt led to take on the leadership of the VACRC, the historic research lab of the Creation Research Society. How does the center work? What are they working on? And how can we be involved? Find out in this new episode!

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