

'If I need to talk to the devil to get the hostages out, I will'
8 snips Mar 22, 2025
In this gripping discussion, Ruby Chen, father of Itay Chen, an Israeli-American IDF soldier taken hostage, shares his heartbreaking perspective on the ongoing crisis. He passionately advocates for better government efforts to secure the release of hostages, expressing frustration over being sidelined in negotiations. Chen reveals the emotional turmoil of families caught in a brutal game of uncertainty, emphasizing the urgent need for innovative diplomatic strategies. His unwavering commitment to finding his son highlights the human cost behind political decisions.
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Questioning Renewed Hostilities
- Ruby Chen questions the logic of renewed military action, doubting a different outcome after 450 days.
- He emphasizes the previous framework's clear definition of the last hostage's release, a key concern for families.
A Businessman's Approach
- Ruby Chen's business background in acquisitions and investments has helped him navigate the hostage crisis.
- He highlights the families' feeling of not being well-represented in talks, leading to their direct engagement with the White House.
Hostages as Collateral Damage
- Ruby Chen feels hostages and their families are treated as collateral damage in a larger political game.
- He believes the current government isn't prioritizing the hostages' release, particularly those serving the country like his son.