35. Faction to Faith with Caroline Stout

I know things over the last two weeks have been extremely heavy. I found myself more fatigued than I ever remember being. After the assassination of Charlie Kirk, getting doxxed and looking at the world burn it really brings up the question "Is there hope left?" Is there room to bridge the ever widening gap happening across America?
Caroline Stout, like me, was part of that faction once, including working at Turning Point USA. Today we discuss our journey's about how we left, because here's the thing- if two people that were as entrenched as we were can leave- anyone can leave. As we watch Christian Nationalism spin into a frenzy and we watch the America we thought we had fall into rubble...
People will wake up
People can wake up
People will leave
I hope this conversation gives you hope. Hope for change, hope for the future, hope for a better tomorrow. Because we can change. And at the end of the day we are being pushed into a rhetoric of right vs. left, christian vs. heathen, good vs. evil when that is NOT the battle.
The battle is and always will be top vs. bottom. The people pitting us against each other are picking our pockets, lining their mansions with money they don't need and could never spend.
My neighbor is not my enemy