Episode 24: So much Kubernetes: CNCF director Dan Kohn / Deis co-founder Gabe Monroy

In this week's rare two-interview episode, Derrick Harris talks Kubernetes with Cloud Native Computing Foundation executive director Dan Kohn, who discusses the Kubernetes ecosystem and adoption, as well the purpose for foundations like CNCF and where they fit into the open source landscape (e.g., in relation to the Apache Software Foundation).

Derrick also speaks with Gabe Monroy, who was co-founder and CTO of container startup Deis, which Microsoft acquired in April. Monroy talks about how Deis came to be and the technologies it developed, and how everything is working now that they're part of Microsoft.

In the news segment, Derrick and co-host Barb Darrow (Fortune) discuss Amazon's non-compete lawsuit against a former exec, Intel's veiled threat to would-be x86 emulators, and fun—and hopefully useful—AI research out of Microsoft and Facebook.