#125 Open Source is Changing. The Changelog Host Jerod Santo Shows You How to Keep Up

May 24, 2024

Quincy Larson interviews Jerod Santo, host of The Changelog podcast, discussing open source AI models, Relicensing, and the challenges facing open source. They cover Jerod's life as a remote dev in Omaha, generating news for the Changelog show, and commissioning music albums. Insights on open source community, Rust adoption, and the future of learning are shared.

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Introduction

00:00 • 2min

Navigating Family Dynamics and Software Trends

02:23 • 18min

Optimizing Newsletter Engagement and Privacy

20:51 • 10min

Evolution and Expansion of the Podcast

30:46 • 16min

Sauce on Steaks: Personal Preferences and Valuing Life

46:35 • 12min

Exploring the Varied Realms of Open Source

58:27 • 23min

Exploring the Balance and Definition of Open Source AI

01:21:20 • 3min

The Rise of Rust and Evolution of Communication Systems

01:24:10 • 4min

Exploring Programming Language Trends and the Future of Learning

01:28:19 • 2min

Web Development Trends and AI Integration

01:29:55 • 10min

Exploring Azure Credits, Community Engagement, Networking, and Authentic Advertising on Podcasts

01:40:10 • 3min

Empowering Through Open Source and Community Support

01:43:36 • 5min

On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews Jerod Santo, host of The Changelog, a podcast about open source software development that has been going strong for 15 years.

Jerod is plugged in to the world of Open Source, going to all the big conferences and interviewing all the big open source creators.

We have a fun, wide-reaching conversation about some of the current issues facing open source, such as AI models and Relicensing – essentially, a big company closed-sourcing a previously open source project after they buy out its creator. (Fun fact: this can't happen to freeCodeCamp because charities cannot be bought or sold.)

I ask Jerod about:

- his life as a remote dev in Omaha, Nebraska, raising his 6 his kids - the Changelog News podcast with its weekly 10 minutes of updates on the world of open source - his process, and how he researches and surfaces interesting news for his show - and how The Changelog commissioned 3 full albums worth of music over the years, which you can stream for free.

Can you guess what bass line I'm playing during the intro? It's from a 1984 pop classic.

Be sure to follow The freeCodeCamp podcast in your favorite podcast app. And share this podcast with a friend. Let's inspire more folks to learn to code and build careers for themselves in tech.

Also, I want to thank the 9,331 kind people who support our charity each month, and who make this podcast possible. You can join them and support our mission at: https://www.freecodecamp.org/donate

Links we talk about during our conversation:

Jerod's weekly Changelog News podcast that you should totally subscribe to (it's free): https://changelog.com/news

Jerod and Adam interview the head of the Open Source Initiative on AI models and open source, which he and I discussed during this podcast: https://changelog.com/podcast/578

Changelog Beats: https://changelog.com/beats

And of course, my interview with Jerod and Adam about their developer journeys, and the history of The Changelog on its 10th anniversary: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/open-source-moves-fast-10-years-of-the-changelog/