The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer The Secret to Turning Resistance into Support
Quick take: If you're facing pushback on your bold school vision, this episode is your playbook for flipping critics into raving fans. Learn how one principal shifted the narrative — and built massive community support in the process.
Meet Your Fellow Ruckus MakerDr. Christopher Jones is a high school principal, leadership author, and host of the Seeing to Lead podcast. He helps educators shift from surviving to thriving by encouraging reflection, connection, and vision — even in the most resistant environments.
Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨 Key Insight #1- What’s broken: Too many leaders are paralyzed by fear of resistance — especially from staff or community stakeholders.
- The shift: Chris started by listening deeply and showing people how they could lead without a title.
- Impact: Staff ownership grew, and culture shifted — not because mandates were handed down, but because people bought in.
- What’s broken: Traditional admin mindsets treat critics as threats rather than assets.
- The shift: Chris chose curiosity over combat, asking questions like: “What do you want to see happen?”
- Impact: Open conversations turned former critics into trusted allies who now champion his leadership publicly.
- What’s broken: Schools often ignore how powerful public perception is in building momentum.
- The shift: Chris proactively told positive stories and empowered his community to tell them too.
- Impact: The narrative shifted from doubt to celebration — with the superintendent, school board, and staff all on board.
“Your loudest critics might just be your most loyal supporters — if you give them the chance to lead.”
– Dr. Christopher Jones
Your Do School Different Challenge- Tomorrow: Ask one critic what success would look like in their eyes. Listen without defense.
- This Month: Invite that person into a decision-making process — not to agree with you, but to shape the future together.
- This Semester: Create a system where feedback becomes fuel, not friction. Turn your toughest room into your greatest asset.
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