Debating Wrath, Sin and Penal Substitution – William Lane Craig and Greg Boyd
Sep 26, 2020
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William Lane Craig, defending Penal Substitution Atonement, debates Greg Boyd, who advocates for the Christus Victor view of the cross. They discuss topics such as the doctrine of atonement, penal substitutionary atonement, divine forgiveness, God's wrath and justice, and the expression of God's justice and love. The podcast also explores the importance of understanding salvation correctly and touches on cancel culture, Trump, apologetics, utilitarianism, determinism, and free will.
Penal substitutionary atonement emphasizes that Jesus bore the suffering for sin on behalf of individuals, freeing them from punishment and allowing forgiveness.
The theory of penal substitution can be viewed through legal, organic, or divine perspectives, each offering unique insights into God's forgiveness and the relationship between sin and punishment.
Understanding and defending the doctrine of atonement, particularly penal substitution, is essential for a biblically consistent explanation of Christ's sacrifice and the love and justice of God.
Deep dives
The Central Role of Penal Substitutionary Atonement
Penal substitutionary atonement is presented as a central facet of a full and biblically adequate theory of the atonement. It emphasizes the belief that Jesus bore the suffering for sin that individuals would have faced, had it not been for his sacrifice. This belief affirms that by bearing this suffering, Jesus freed believers from the liability to punishment, thus allowing them to be forgiven and cleansed.
Different Framings of Penal Substitution
While there are different interpretations of penal substitutionary atonement, the specific framing is dependent on one's views. These views include the idea that God punished Christ for our sins, the notion that Jesus bore the suffering that would have been our punishment, and the belief that Christ's death on the cross demonstrated God's love for humanity and his desire for justice. The dynamics of this theory can be interpreted through legal, organic, or divine perspectives, each providing unique insights into the nature of God's forgiveness and the relationship between sin and punishment.
Importance of Understanding and Defending the Doctrine
The doctrine of atonement, particularly the theory of penal substitution, is integral to the Christian faith. It is essential to understand and defend this doctrine against objections, as it forms the basis of the Christian gospel. By offering a coherent and plausible theory of the atonement, believers can provide a biblically consistent explanation of Christ's sacrifice, allowing others to grasp the significance of his death and the love and justice of God.
The Debate on Punishment
The podcast episode explores a debate on punishment, discussing whether punishment should be seen as an organic form of punishment or as a form of punishment inflicted by God. The speaker argues that punishment is not inflicted by God but is its own punishment, highlighting the importance of a moral order created by God. The podcast also discusses the concept of retributive justice, emphasizing that God's justice in the New Testament is largely retributive, leading to punishment in the afterlife. This retributive justice can only be satisfied by Christ bearing the punishment for human sin.
The Nature of Divine Justice and Forgiveness
The podcast explores the idea of divine justice and forgiveness, discussing whether justice must be satisfied with punishment. The speaker questions the necessity of punishment for God to forgive, suggesting that love itself is redemptive and reconciling. They argue that forgiveness could be seen as the cleansing itself, without the need for anger or punishment. The podcast also delves into the concepts of legal fiction and vicarious liability, highlighting how these concepts can be applied to the atonement and the imputation of wrongdoing. The discussion concludes with a reflection on the implications of different atonement theories on the understanding of divine violence and reconciliation.
Did God punish Jesus in our place on the cross? William Lane Craig’s new book ‘Atonement and the Death of Christ’ is a major new defence of Penal Substitutionary Atonement. He discusses the doctrine of atonement with Greg Boyd who has been a critic of PSA and an advocate of the Christus Victor view of the cross.