The National Education Union's general secretary on banning social media, strikes and race
Daniel Kebede says he is "completely aligned" with Kemi Badenoch on social media policy but warns that the Labour government is on a "collision course" with teachers over pay and conditions.
Why does a former minister describe him as "disarming" while the press brand him as "militant" and a "hardened protester"?
Nick also presses Kebede on the blocking of a Jewish Bristol MP from visiting a school, past comments about Israel, and whether taxpayers can afford further pay rises for teachers.
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Political Thinking with Nick Robinson