
Meet the Press Meet the Press NOW — December 10
Dec 10, 2025
Savannah Guthrie, co-anchor of NBC's Today, is joined by Governors Spencer Cox of Utah and Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania. They engage in a candid discussion about political violence, with Shapiro sharing his experience of an assassination attempt. Cox highlights the alarming threats in Utah and the need for leaders to unite against extremism. The conversation explores the impact of social media on polarization and the importance of civic education. Both governors advocate for a return to respectful discourse and practical bipartisan initiatives to bridge divides.
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Personal Impact Of An Attack
- Josh Shapiro described the arson attack on his family home and its emotional aftermath.
- He credited faith, family, and public support for helping his family heal and continue governing.
Threats Spark A Statewide Initiative
- Spencer Cox recounted threats against him and the murder of Charlie Kirk as catalysts for his Disagree Better initiative.
- He said those events made him realize public speech is now risky for speakers and audiences alike.
Universal Condemnation Matters
- Josh Shapiro argued leaders must universally condemn political violence to avoid fueling more.
- He asserted that selective condemnation is 'gasoline on the fire' and undermines moral clarity.


