PvI#80: Brief, Alternative Facts w/ David Shields

Important announcement for Chicago-area listeners: On Wed. 8/21, Mark and Bill will record a live episode of PvI at iO Theater (1501 N Kingsbury St.). Our show runs from 6-7 pm followed by a Bill-hosted regular improv event called The Green Room. Admission is free, parking is plentiful, no reservations required. Come meet us!

Internationally best-selling author David wrote a book (and made a film) called How We Got Here, which traces the gradual path in the history of ideas from the ancients through various forms of perspectivism, relativism, and post-modernism to the post-truth discourse that authoritarians and wanna-be authoritarians engage in.

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David’s book is in a very terse style, in line with his overall career emphasis on brevity, so we talk about this choice and how it means in most cases not actually explaining any of the ideas involved much less arguing for his interpretation of them. Instead, a series of quotations and short explanations prompt readers to see the lines of influence themselves. This is not a dismissal of post-modernism due to its deleterious consequences, as he sees the current liberal absolutist reaction (there IS objective truth and morality and Trump and his ilk are ignoring) as foolishly antiquated.

We read some passages and discuss some of the many figures that come up, including Allan Bloom, Levi-Strauss, Vladislav Surkov, plus the various philosophers like Nietzsche that inspired David’s aphoristic style.

We don’t actually get into evaluating the idea that truth is relative (or subjective, or unknowable such that for practical purposes we can treat it as relative), though this has been covered a number of times in past Partially Examined Life episodes, and we’re currently recording a two-episode run on Richard Rorty, who gives among the more comprehensible defenses of this counter-intuitive thesis.

Through some brief improv scenes that David was possibly unaware were happening, Mark and Bill explore whether the denial of the objectivity of truth would be a good campaign strategy, and also what life David’s concise book might leave now that it has separated from his mind and source materials and become autonomous.

The image is from Pinterest. It’s a shield. You’ll have to trace yourself the historical evolution between our guest David Shields and actual shields and images of shields drawn by children.

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