The Bulwark Podcast
Joe Klein & John Ellis: A Torrent of Stupid
Jan 31, 2024
Veteran journalists Joe Klein and John Ellis join the hosts to discuss the overwhelming political climate, targeting celebrities like Taylor Swift, and discomfort of Trump supporters with cosmopolitan culture. They explore the influence of an extreme faction within the Republican Party, challenges in legal representation, Biden's decisions on the border and Iran, swing voters' preference for border security, the volatile situation at the Texas-Mexico border, and potential vice presidential candidates for Donald Trump.
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- The blending of politics and culture has resulted in a tribalization of society, fueled by divisive political campaigns and the erosion of truth and trust in institutions.
- The threat of hacking and election interference by foreign countries raises concerns about the legitimacy of election outcomes and the need for increased cybersecurity measures to protect the democratic process.
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The Transformative Power of Politics and Culture
The transformation of politics over the past few decades has been surprising, with a blending of politics and culture that has resulted in a tribalization of society. The rise of marketing has contributed to this, as political campaigns focus on dividing people rather than finding common ground. The erosion of truth and the prevalence of cynicism in journalism has also had a significant impact. The increasing reliance on technology and its potential for manipulation, such as deep fake audio and video, raises concerns about the ability to discern fact from fiction. Overall, the fragility of the political system, the lack of trust in institutions, and the erosion of American exceptionalism have been major shifts observed in recent years.
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