To celebrate the launch of his new book Chance, Gary catches up with True Crime Australia podcaster and crime journalist Andrew Rule, who has turned his mind to some of racing's most colourful sages and scallywags. More information about the book at: https://www.panmacmillan.com.au/9781760987718/ Search for Andrew Rule's podcast by typing 'Life and Crimes' into the search wherever you get your podcasts.
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