The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer

Leadership Lessons from the Beekeeper

May 22, 2024

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Michael Frino, Ph. D, Director Organizational Development at Boston Scientific | WSJ Bestselling Author | Performance Researcher. Over the last 25+ years he has worked with Fortune 500 companies in the areas of sales, sales training and leadership development. I am passionate about building high-performing teams and organizational cultures.

He enjoys publishing research on human performance, sales and the euphoric state of flow. His experience has also given him the opportunity to work closely and lead teams responsible for multimedia production, organizational DE&I strategies and marketing competency development.

Katie Desiderio, Ph. D, Assistant Vice President, Corporate-Educational Partnerships | Tenured Professor of Management | Partner in Learning | WSJ Best Selling Author | Mama. Katie counts her blessings starting with the people in her life, which guides her approach to work where her focus is on every organization's most important asset – you! Her personality and behavioral attributes emphasize collaboration and all things that keep human beings in focus, which fuels her intrapreneurial spirit.

As an athlete, she found flow in sports and later discovered flow at work to fuel her professional trajectory. After working for several years in corporate marketing, Katie chose a second career in higher education, where she celebrates the honor of being the first female chairperson of the Economics and Business Department at the sixth oldest institution in America and first to educate women.

As the mama of two extraordinary girls, she is committed to the development of rising leaders, namely in the spirit of leading from any seat. Along with her work as a tenured faculty member at Moravian University, Desiderio is Principal Partner in Learning of Proximal Development, LLC, an authorized DiSC partner, specializing in leadership development and the advancement of performance through learning.

Upon completion of her doctorate in Organizational Learning and Leadership, Katie has been co-authoring scholar-practitioner journal articles, conference proceedings, and now this book with her learning partner and friend. Join them on this journey to inspire how you will pollinate the world!

Show Highlights

Unceremoniously squash the queen bee of your hive to put productivity front and center.
Embracing messiness in leadership is essential for generating new ideas and encouraging diverse perspectives.
Learning and unlearning are vital components of value creation and collective progression when creating change.
Encouraging people to lead from any seat to create influencers around you to engage your entire community.
Maximize production in your "hive" with a hexagon shape collaboration.
Place yourself the center of someone's growth to create the honey in your bee hive.
Get your FREE growth guides that encourage learning in the space of curiosity for deep level diversity.

"There's an opportunity here to think about change agents. As Ruckus Makers, we have to continually turn the lens to be able to self reflect, to think about value creation."

-Katie Desiderio

"We can't let that serve as a blind spot for us to think about the impact on the collective whole. For all of us to be able to hit the pause button to say, 'I probably could have done that better,' or 'how could I rephrase that or how could I look at this from a different lens to try to do it different or to bring someone else that might be more effective than I am in this space.'"

-Katie Desiderio

"If you don't have a philosophy that you can share how you're going to lead the good, the bad, and ugly and share it, then the environment that you're creating may not be one that's vulnerable and authentic, and people will just see you as kind of a hierarchical leader. And that's not what we're trying to encourage. We're trying to convert, encouraging buyers where everybody can lead from every seat. It's okay to bring your best self to work, come as you are, choose the lens you want, but let's all work at this together."

-Michael Frino

"When we think about being innovators and disruption and demonstrating a ruckus, you have to go through a process, and it has to be messy. It can't be so rigid. The best ideas come when the process is messy, and you have to allow yourself permission to do that. Some people are really uncomfortable in that space, but getting out of your comfort zone, whiteboarding, brainstorming, being messy, will bring to life brand new ideas, brand new concepts, and probably allow people who have really great ideas to speak up that may not otherwise be heard, be messy." -Michael Frino

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