Jamie is joined by David Rubenstein—co-founder of The Carlyle Group and author of The Highest Calling: Conversations on the American Presidency—to discuss the legacies of presidents from Abraham Lincoln to Joe Biden and what we can do about America’s debt.

The Agenda:

—Original interviews with presidents

—Is Lincoln the greatest president?

—Unpredictable paths to the presidency

—Franklin D. Roosevelt’s transformation

—Gerald Ford’s Pardon of Richard Nixon

—Donald Trump and Joe Biden

—Anti-Israel encampments

—Debt and global stability

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This Week on BPAF : Eric Green