The Ben Shapiro Show Ep. 2333 - Gavin Newsom Wants to Trans The Kids
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Dec 12, 2025 
Gavin Newsom, the progressive Governor of California, joins to discuss his controversial stance on trans youth and defend his record on related legislation. He explains his personal connections to trans issues and discusses fairness in trans sports. The conversation takes a turn as Ben Shapiro critiques the idea of 'trans kids' and highlights the potential political risks for Democrats surrounding these topics. They explore the broader implications of healthcare strategy as well, making this an engaging dialogue on pivotal social policies.
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Democrats Shift Away From Culture Wars
- Democrats are shelving unpopular culture issues like DEI and radical trans policies to focus on affordability and electability.
- Ben Shapiro argues this shift responds to 2024 vulnerabilities and shapes 2028 positioning.
Newsom Shares Personal Backstory On Trans Views
- Gavin Newsom recounts personal conflicts and a trans godson while defending pro-trans legislation and his stance on sports fairness.
- He describes losing friendships and wrestling with accommodating competing athletes in state finals.
Political Risk Of 'Trans Kids' Rhetoric
- Ben Shapiro contends 'trans kids' is a politically fraught phrase and rejects medical transition for minors as unscientific and harmful.
- He criticizes Newsom's rhetoric as creating tension within the Democratic coalition.