Chatting with The Squatch Guys, Solomon Berg and Daniel Jordan. The conversation explores paranormal conspiracy space, injecting reality into unreal spaces, therapy, survival in capitalism, supporting trans youth, distinction between race and species, boundaries and ethics, behavior of a person named Carrie, evolution of belief, and reflections on the podcast.
Read more
AI Summary
AI Chapters
Episode notes
auto_awesome
Podcast summary created with Snipd AI
Quick takeaways
The hosts of the podcast conducted an experiment to challenge false narratives by infiltrating the show and introducing real science.
During the experiment, Barry skillfully corrected misinformation without being confrontational, using empathy and logic.
The podcast host, Kerry, is primarily motivated by profit and tends to engage with individuals who can boost her own profits.
The experiment highlighted the potential value of curated infiltration and engagement in fringe communities to introduce alternative viewpoints.
Deep dives
The Experiment Begins
The podcast episode starts with an experiment where the hosts, Barry and Andrew, go on the show as guests to see if they can influence the host's beliefs. They plan to mix in 80% fun space-related content with 20% real science, aiming to challenge some of the false narratives and conspiracy theories presented on the show.
Navigating the Conversation
During the interview, Barry skillfully navigates the conversation by mirroring the host's claims and beliefs while subtly correcting them. He introduces real scientific information, challenges racist and anti-Semitic narratives, and inserts empathy and logic into the discussions. Barry's background in anthropology and his role as a social worker give him the expertise and credibility to challenge some of the misinformation without being directly confrontational.
Carrie's Reactions and Defensiveness
Carrie's reactions to Barry's corrections and insights are mixed. At times, she self-corrects and adjusts her statement based on his input. She even defends Barry when questioned by others about his views. However, she still holds on to her anti-Semitic narratives, believing that Jews are lizard people and that they run Israel. While the experiment seems to challenge some of Carrie's beliefs, it's clear that she is more focused on attention, fame, and influence rather than holding consistent or coherent beliefs.
The Ethical Considerations
Barry, being a social worker, had ethical considerations throughout the experiment. He was careful not to offend or take advantage of Carrie's mental state. If he sensed any instability, he would have ended the experiment immediately. However, he found Carrie to be mentally stable, albeit holding problematic beliefs. The goal was to test the extent to which they could influence her and challenge the false narratives presented on her show.
The profit-driven nature of the podcast host
The podcast episode revealed that the podcast host, Kerry, is motivated by profit and has a tendency to platform and engage with individuals who can boost her own profits. This was evident in her support of miracle medicine cures and her echo chamber of profit-driven discussions in her Telegram channels.
The lack of genuine belief and commitment
Throughout the experiment, it became clear that Kerry lacks genuine belief in her own ideas and does not fully invest in them. She displayed a short attention span and struggled to remember certain aspects of her own show. This lack of belief and investment was reflected in her interactions with the podcast hosts as well.
The need for curated infiltration and engagement
The experiment raised questions about the potential value of curated infiltration and engagement in certain spaces. It suggested that entering fringe communities, fostering dialogue, and introducing left-leaning ideas could have a positive impact. It emphasized the importance of not ignoring or surrendering these spaces to negative voices, while also necessitating ethical and thoughtful approaches.
In this installment, Dan and Jordan chat with Solomon Berg and Daniel Jordan (aka Barry and Andrew), the two gents behind the riveting Ambassador saga on Project Camelot. The conversation gets into all manner of revelations one might come to by entering the the paranormal conspiracy space, and if the strategy of stealthily injecting reality into unreal spaces has any promise.
Get the Snipd podcast app
Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
AI-powered podcast player
Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features
Discover highlights
Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode
Save any moment
Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways
Share & Export
Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more
AI-powered podcast player
Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features
Discover highlights
Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode
