222 – Economics as Horseshit (w/ Neighbor Science)
Nov 26, 2020
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Ryan from Neighbor Science, an expert in neoclassical economics, joins the Wrong Boys to expose the flawed assumptions of economics. They discuss the misuse of efficiency, irrational consumer behavior, power dynamics in economics, Adam Smith's views on landlords and repetitive tasks, market failure, and diverse perspectives on the definition of civilization.
Economists assume rationality, but people's decisions are influenced by various factors and can change over time.
Power dynamics and external factors can limit the true voluntary nature of market transactions.
Prices are often administered by businesses, taking into account factors such as costs and markups.
The economy is a construct influenced by power and interests, perpetuating inequality.
Deep dives
Assumption 1: Prices are formed based on supply and demand
Prices are determined at the intersection of supply and demand curves. The more something costs, the lower the demand and the higher the supply. The less something costs, the higher the demand, but the lower the supply. Prices fluctuate based on these dynamics.
Assumption 2: Rationality and Fixed Preferences
Economists assume that individuals are rational and have fixed, ordered preferences. However, in reality, people's preferences and decision-making are influenced by various factors and can change over time. People don't always make decisions solely based on maximizing their utility.
Assumption 3: Buyers and Sellers Act Voluntarily
Buyers and sellers are assumed to engage in market transactions voluntarily to fulfill their utility and profit goals, respectively. In practice, however, power dynamics, inequalities, and external factors can influence these interactions and limit the true voluntary nature of transactions.
Assumption 4: Prices are Set in a Perfect Market
Economists assume a perfect market with complete information and no debt. In reality, prices are often administered by businesses, taking into account factors such as costs, markups, and profit margins. Debt and market power also play significant roles in price determination.
The Flawed Nature of the Economy
The podcast episode explores the radical anarchistic critique of the economy, arguing that it is a social fiction created by those in power to extract labor from people who owe them nothing. It challenges the idea that the economy is a scientific study and reveals that it is a construct influenced by power and interests. Historically, wealthy and powerful individuals have shaped economics to protect their own wealth and influence, distorting the discipline and perpetuating inequality.
Economics and the Role of Power
The podcast points out the significant influence of power in economics. It highlights how power affects people's behavior and decisions within economic systems, often benefiting those in positions of authority and harming society as a whole. Many traditional economic models fail to account for power dynamics and their impact on the economy. The discussion emphasizes the need to recognize power as a crucial factor in economic analysis and decision-making.
Rethinking Economic Narratives
The podcast challenges the conventional narrative of the economy, emphasizing that economics is not an objective, neutral study of money flow. It argues that the economy is a human construct, existing to serve the interests of the powerful and perpetuate inequality. The podcast emphasizes the importance of reevaluating and redefining economic concepts, such as markets and success, to create a more equitable and sustainable economic system.
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