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Eli Clifton & Ian Lustick: Israel's Lobby - America in the Grip of a Foreign Power

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Aug 17, 2026
Ian Lustick, a political scientist specializing in Israeli politics, and Eli Clifton, Quincy Institute cofounder and author, discuss U.S.-Israel influence. They trace the lobby's rise, tactics, funding shifts, and how Israel's political turn changed strategies. They examine the gap between public opinion and policy and debate alternatives to the two-state framework.
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How The Lobby Was Built From The 1950s

  • The lobby began in the 1950s as an Israeli foreign ministry operation to counter anti-Zionists in the State Department.
  • Ian Lustick: early Israeli assistance organized US Zionist supporters into what became AIPAC, targeting local politicians with primary threats.
INSIGHT

Citizens United Shifted The Lobby Upward

  • Citizens United opened campaign finance to large donors, enabling a small number of plutocrats to purchase outsized political influence for pro-Israel agendas.
  • Eli Clifton: after 2010 the lobby shifted to top-down funding aligned with right-wing Israeli positions via super PACs.
INSIGHT

Examples Where U.S. Policy Followed Israeli Moves

  • U.S. policymakers repeatedly subordinate American interests to Israeli actions, such as rapid alignment during the Iran war outbreak.
  • Eli Clifton: politicians and lobby celebrations showed the U.S. followed Israeli moves rather than restraining them.
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