In this episode, Mik is joined by two guests: Dr. Nicole Forsgren, VP of Research & Strategy at GitHub, and Dr. Denae Ford Robinson, Senior Researcher in the SAINTes group at Microsoft Research.

Mik, Nicole and Denae had an energetic and insightful conversation about many topics, including:

• Measuring productivity, and how leaders can utilize these insights to build diverse systems and measures to strengthen inclusion and diversity at scale
• The importance of making the workflow, conversations and collaborations visible
• Creating a company culture that embraces diversity and inclusion, and encourages employees to bring their authentic selves and ideas to the workplace
• Breaking the stereotypes of developer personas and creating a safe working environment that encourages the intersection of personal and professional identities
• The social fabric of an organization and how evolving technological architecture can increase flow and visibility, and create better outcomes

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For more information about Dr. Nicole Forsgren & Dr. Denae Ford Robinson, to view the full list of resources featured in this episode, and to download the episode transcript, visit:
https://projecttoproduct.org/podcast/dr-nicole-forsgren-dr-denae-ford-robinson/