John Peet, Brexit editor for the Economist, and Ryan Avent, an economics columnist, dive into Boris Johnson's recent defeat over Parliament suspension. They discuss the Supreme Court's ruling and its implications for Brexit and Johnson's democratic credibility. The conversation shifts to the rising influence of economists in policy-making and the historical context of the neoliberal revolution. Finally, they explore the fascinating Kimbanguist faith in the Democratic Republic of Congo, highlighting its unique beliefs and community spirit.