
Rachel Maddow Presents: Burn Order Episode 4: "Like an Ordinary American"
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Dec 8, 2025 This discussion highlights the brave stand of Ralph Carr, a principled politician who defied authoritarian actions during a dark time in American history. As fear gripped the nation post-Pearl Harbor, Carr championed the rights of Japanese Americans despite backlash. The podcast also features notable stories of resistance from individuals like Gordon Hirabayashi and Min Yasui, whose challenges to unjust orders fueled crucial legal battles. Their collective actions underscore the power of courage against systemic injustice.
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From Urinal Decision To Rising Governor
- Ralph Carr reluctantly became Colorado governor after a late-night decision and rose to national prominence.
- He used his country-lawyer reputation and temper to connect with diverse communities and win elections.
Citizenship Doesn't Shield From Mass Policy
- After Pearl Harbor, authorities moved from arresting noncitizen Japanese to targeting U.S. citizens of Japanese descent.
- Ralph Carr framed mass removal as a constitutional violation that could threaten any minority tomorrow.
A Governor Who Welcomed Families
- Governor Carr traveled to small Colorado towns promising full protection to Japanese American arrivals.
- His stance prompted families like Herbert Inouye's to cross state lines seeking safety and acceptance.

