Wokies Against Cancel Culture – Jordan Stephens, George Gilbert

George Gilbert, the Gen-Z Farage fan recently kicked off Big Brother, joins us for a chat on cancel culture, young men and the radical right, with guest host Jordan Stephens!

As you know, What’s Left aims to stick its head above the culture wars. But we can’t avoid the magnetic pull from controversial personalities that keep the digital news cycle churning. We’re just as human as you.

Following our interview with the Oxford Union’s George Abaraonye, it appears we’ve found a new theme: interviewing cancelled Georges. Indeed, George Gilbert is a very different phenomenon - a young Parish councillor, recently booted off one of the UK’s biggest reality TV shows for voicing contrarian and inflammatory views, which included an allegation of antisemitism which ITV decided not to broadcast.

When I asked Jordan Stephens to guest host, we agreed we wanted to make something fresh. How rare is it to see a healthy conversation of three lads with very different politics, discussing challenging topics?

George had already been on the circuit of right-wing anti-woke podcasts with Dan Wootton and Andrew Gold. We wanted to show that the Left are equally as up for these chats. Yep, some ‘Wokies’ are, in fact, against culture.

This is not to absolve George from the framing of his questions, but to show that civil society must explain to young people why some views and questions are considered beyond the pale. Just shutting down the conversation is clearly not working. If anything, it pushes some young people further down the rabbit hole.

Jordan and I believe that openness and dialogue is key to dissolving animosity and encouraging compassion in our politics. Hopefully this conversation is a step in the right direction.

Chapters

00:00 Intro, Waffle + Housekeeping

09:54 Greens vs. Labour

20:15 George Gilbert Arrives

25:50 Why George Got Kicked Off Big Brother

36:00 The Right-Wing Rabbit Hole

51:55 Tommy Robinson Is A Grifter

58:05 Stop and Search Racism Allegations

1:06:42 George’s Dating Challenges

1:15:13 Post-Christian West

1:22:15 How Social Media Creates Populists

1:35:20 Has Brexit Destroyed the UK?

1:42:13 Wealth Inequality Is Out of Control

1:50:41 George’s National Identity Mission