The Playbook Podcast January 16, 2025: Why can’t Mike Johnson and John Thune just get along?
Jan 16, 2025
Rachael Bade, Capitol bureau chief and senior Washington columnist for POLITICO, dives into the tensions between House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune. She discusses their conflicting legislative strategies and the quest for President Trump’s approval. The conversation highlights the challenges in reconciling their approaches to crucial policies like the debt ceiling. Additionally, Bade touches on the recent ceasefire in Gaza and the culmination of President Biden's tenure, adding layers to the political landscape.
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Thune vs. Johnson
- House Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune have differing legislative strategies.
- This creates tension as they compete for President-elect Trump's influence.
Strategic Divide
- The main division between Johnson and Thune lies in their preferred legislative strategy.
- Johnson wants one large reconciliation bill, while Thune prefers smaller, quicker wins.
Trump's Influence
- Donald Trump's stance on the legislative strategy shifts depending on who he last spoke with.
- This makes him an unreliable mediator between Johnson and Thune.