Jane joins us from home as she's still suffering from adult teething issues. Fi updates her on everything she's missed, which is... not much. They cover holiday weather, pickleball and double-yolk eggs.

Plus, Saad Mohseni, chief executive of Moby Group, Afghanistan’s largest media company, discusses his book ‘Radio Free Afghanistan’.

Our next book club pick has been announced! 'The Trouble with Goats and Sheep' by Joanna Cannon.

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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