The hosts discuss the penultimate episode of The Chosen, exploring favorite moments and the meaning of 'penultimate'. They analyze scenes from the episode, discussing similarities to their lives and storytelling techniques. They reflect on cultural wisdom and storytelling in a podcast scene, emphasizing the importance of context. The hosts discuss a swindled donation story and the presence of menorahs at the temple. Simon's encounter and revelation lead to intrigue about character relationships. They discuss the theme of hard hearts and the role of Simon, as well as geographical locations and biblical connections.