American Alchemy with Jesse Michels The Hidden UFO Program Is Real - Here’s How It Works! (ft. UAPGerb)
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Jan 11, 2026 This week, UAP Gerb (Sammy), an independent UFO researcher specializing in government legacy programs, dives into the covert world of crash retrievals and contractor networks. He unveils a fascinating pyramid structure of UFO program hierarchies and discusses the role of government-owned labs like MITRE in advanced technology development. The conversation touches on whistleblower accounts and notable historical cases, as well as the implications of leaked information on modern-day secrecy. Gerb also emphasizes the urgent need for credible testimonies to unveil truths about UFOs.
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How The Legacy-Program Pyramid Operates
- UAP legacy programs form a pyramid with political backers at the top, intelligence and DOD administrators mid-level, FFRDCs as intermediaries, and prime contractors at the base.
- Program protection (DOE OICI, DARPA SID, SAP/USAP/CAP structures) and funding tricks keep control tightly compartmentalized.
FFRDCs Are The Hidden Middlemen
- Federally Funded Research and Development Centers (FFRDCs) like MITRE and national labs act as government-owned, contractor-operated intermediaries.
- That structure lets the U.S. government retain control while outsourcing technical work on exotic materials and vehicles.
How Black Budgets Stay Hidden
- Legacy programs exploit funding loopholes (IRAD, carryover funds, overcharging) to finance classified work outside normal oversight.
- NRO carryover misuse in the mid-1990s (billions) exemplifies how budgets can hide sensitive programs.
