The Munk Debates Podcast Munk Debate on the Two-State Solution: Opening Statements
Dec 8, 2025
In this engaging debate, guests include Ehud Olmert, a former Israeli prime minister advocating for a two-state solution, and Tzipi Livni, a former justice minister who emphasizes its role in preserving Israel's Jewish democracy. Opposing them are Michael Oren, a historian who questions the feasibility of a Palestinian state due to historical rejections, and Ayelet Shaked, who highlights security risks. Each speaker presents compelling arguments on how the two-state solution impacts Israel's future and regional stability.
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Post-War Choice: Occupation Or Political Solution
- Ehud Olmert argues Israel won the Gaza war militarily but now must choose between perpetual occupation or a political solution.
- He says a Palestinian state (based on 1967 lines with adjustments) is the only path to regional normalization and lasting Israeli security.
War's Aftermath Opens A Political Window
- Ehud Olmert recounts the October 7 attacks and Israel's military response that eliminated many Hamas leaders and infrastructure.
- He uses the wartime context to argue military victory created the opportunity for a political solution.
Gaza Disengagement Turned Into A Warning
- Ayelet Shaked recounts Gaza's 2005 withdrawal turning into a Hamas-run terror state and the October 7 massacre.
- She uses these events to illustrate why many Israelis oppose granting Palestinians a sovereign state.
