Author and broadcaster Gaia Vince argues that we need to focus on how we'll deal with the already happening and about to get much worse effects of climate change, such as huge swaths of the planet becoming uninhabitable and 2 billion people needing to find somewhere new to live. She proposes a radical reframing of how we think about migration. Topics discussed include wet bulb temperatures, demographic aging, the Japanese nappy market, rising sea levels, tipping points, electric vehicle infrastructure, the warping of time, lessons from COVID-19, declining birth rates, special economic zones, anti-migrant rhetoric, and the multicultural nature of Britain.