The Joe Rogan Experience #1617 - Mike Baker
Mar 10, 2021
Mike Baker, a former CIA covert operations officer and co-founder of Diligence LLC, dives into the intricate world of cyber espionage and global threats. He emphasizes the importance of countering China's cyber strategies and addresses vulnerabilities in U.S. power grids. The conversation shifts to societal issues during the pandemic, touching on public reactions to health protocols and the role of misinformation. With personal anecdotes and critical insights, Baker navigates the complexities of security, health, and identity in today's world.
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China's Strategy
- China's plan to become a global superpower involves stealing intellectual property.
- This has been happening for decades, not just recently.
China's Cyberattack MO
- Chinese cyberattacks target intelligence first, then branch out to everything.
- They hoover up data indiscriminately and sort it later, demonstrating patience and long-term vision.
Dealing with China
- Maintain a strong stance against China's actions.
- Use sanctions and trade wars to make their behavior painful, as cyber warfare lacks clear definitions.