In this discussion, Shashank Joshi, Defence Editor at the Economist, and host Anirudh Suri explore the evolving landscape of technology infrastructure with a focus on internet physicality and the growing importance of cloud computing. They delve into how undersea cables still carry the majority of global internet traffic and the growing geopolitical complexity as countries strive for data sovereignty. The conversation also covers the challenges posed by the increasing significance of cloud services and the critical role of AI in processing vast amounts of data for national security purposes. Watch this clip to learn about the engineering and bureaucratic hurdles nations face in adapting to these technological advancements.