Making Sense with Sam Harris #428 — Political Extremism
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Aug 7, 2025 
Jonah Goldberg, Editor-in-chief of The Dispatch and host of The Remnant, joins to dissect the current political landscape. They explore the implications of Trump 2.0 and delve into wealth inequality. Goldberg discusses the horseshoe theory and the rise of illiberalism on both sides of the aisle. He highlights the complexities within the MAGA movement and the ongoing struggles faced by the Democratic Party. Their candid conversation sheds light on the erosion of classical liberal principles and the urgent need for accountability in today’s political discourse.
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Trump's Unprecedented Corruption Acceptance
- Trump has shifted from performative leadership to more substantive actions, both positive and negative.
- His open acceptance of government corruption disrupts traditional political norms.
Trump's Postmodern Reality
- Trump embodies a postmodern view where personal feelings dictate reality.
- This leads to a dismissive attitude towards facts and fosters unconditional loyalty.
Horseshoe Theory Vindicated
- Political extremes on both sides abandon classical liberal values, converging into illiberalism.
- This shared illiberalism breaks down norms essential for rational compromise.