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The Success Myth Diaries #2: Sian Clifford on Fame

May 25, 2023
Sian Clifford, best known for playing Claire in Fleabag, discusses success myths including the 'then and when' theory, the myth of busyness, and the myth of perfectionism. She shares her experience of winning a BAFTA and the ongoing pressure to meet expectations. The conversation also touches on the concept of ego versus soul, the meaning of success and collaborative creativity, and the endless chase for success and fame influenced by society's capitalist structure.
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  • The myth of then and when suggests that achieving certain goals or possessions will bring fulfillment, but life is a constant journey of uncertainty and milestones often don't meet expectations.
  • The myth of busyness equating success perpetuates the pressure to constantly be busy, particularly in freelance industries like acting, but it's important to create balanced and calm moments and tune into one's intuition for a fulfilling day.

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The Myth of Then and When

Sean Clifford discusses the myth of then and when, which is the belief that once we achieve certain goals or possess certain things, we will finally feel fulfilled and successful. She feels that this myth is unrealistic and that life is a constant journey of uncertainty. Even when we reach certain milestones, they often don't meet our expectations. Sean believes that this myth is ingrained in our culture and perpetuated by capitalism, as we are made to believe that external validation or objects of desire are necessary for fulfillment.

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