So much is happening this week! First, podcast shifts. Kat takes a moment to fill us in on some updates. Then, the good stuff. Kat sits down with a human she has been having some hard conversations with lately. His name is Paul & together they cover racism, white privilege, & what it is like to be black in America. We hope this episode makes you think, but more importantly we hope it makes you feel. After all, feelings are the things that drive us to make changes & this country is overdue for some change.

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