What does it REALLY take to become a top podcaster? (And are today’s top podcasters gatekeeping the real secrets to podcast growth?)

In this episode, I’m sitting down with the one and only Jordan Harbinger—a podcasting legend with over 15 million downloads every month and named Apple’s “Best and Most Downloaded Podcast” back in 2018.

We’re pulling back the curtain on the exact strategies that helped Jordan build his podcasting empire—from letting go of the obsession with analytics to finding success by doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing, and staying motivated when it feels like every niche is already taken.

So if you’re ready to learn what it actually takes to master your craft as a podcast host, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Hit play and let's make your business bingeworthy.

0:45 - What’s Missing from Your Podcast Growth Strategy?

3:10 - The Mental Shift That Took Jordan to 15m+ Monthly Downloads

7:25 - The Unconventional Approach to Podcasting That Defies The 'Rules'

10:40 - How to Stand Out When Every Podcast Niche Feels Oversaturated

14:05 - Jordan’s Bold Move That Built Massive Trust With His Audience

18:30 - The One Thing That Matters More Than Downloads for Long-Term Success

Episode Links:

Check out Jordan Harbinger's podcast: The Jordan Harbinger Show

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