In this bonus episode, we welcome a very special guest: Justin’s wife, Lauren, the first woman to ever appear on the Fatherhood podcast. Together, they reflect on marriage, parenting, and partnership while raising four boys, and what it looks like to raise sons into men as a united team. Lauren shares a mother’s perspective on how parenting can feel different for moms and dads, and why fathers play a key role in helping “decode” boys, whose expressions of love and affirmation often look very different than expected.

Justin and Lauren also share the story of how their relationship began, including their breakup, getting back together, and a memorable first date at one of Justin’s punk rock screamo shows (yes, he was the screamer). The conversation moves into the realities of married life: learning to meet in the middle on expectations, choosing the right tools for the job, and resisting the temptation to keep score. They speak candidly about difficult seasons in their marriage, the danger of bitterness, and replacing narratives like “I do everything” with gratitude, prayer, and a posture of selfless giving.

Along the way, they offer practical wisdom, from sharing calendars around Lauren’s monthly cycle to knowing when and how to share struggles with friends without speaking poorly about your spouse. They close by answering two simple but meaningful questions about what they love most about their marriage and how they feel most supported by one another, highlighting courage, tenacity, encouragement, and making life fun together. This episode is filled with honest stories, practical tools, and life-giving wisdom that’s both encouraging and easy to apply.

Intentional Fatherhood Retreat: February 19-21, 2026 in Costa Mesa, CA

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Scripture Mentioned: Acts 20:35

Book Mentioned: Sacred Fire by Ronald Rolheiser

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